Local Groups

Glasgow Group Kicks Off 2019 with Reframing Works…

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Ever had a simple argument put to you even though there is no evidence to support it? Ever wondered why you had clear facts rejected? Facts alone do not change people’s opinions. What is going on here? How you we deal with these situations?


Reframing is a technique which shows us how to to put our point across without reinforcing other people’s existing preconceptions. In many cases presenting clear facts actually reinforces people’s existing misconceptions. How we reframe establishment propaganda is perhaps the biggest single challenge facing us in working for self-determination for Scotland.

So this month, our Greater Glasgow Group has invited Bill Mills to come and talk to us. The session will introduce the concepts of Framing and Reframing, and relate them to the current situation in Scotland. Followed by Q&A.

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Christina McKelvie MSP Speaking in Glasgow

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On November 9th the Pensioners for Independence were lucky enough to have Christina McKelvie come and talk to us in Glasgow. Members of Pensioners for Indy attended from Edinburgh, Midlothian, Dumfries and other branches as well as Glasgow. 

The talk was organised by Mary McCabe, Co-Convenor of Pensioners for Independence National group. Here is her account of the event:

Christina is Minister for Older People and Equalities in the Scottish Government. However we introduced ourselves to her as a YES group rather than a support group for senior citizens and she addressed us not on behalf of the Scottish Government but as a fellow independence activist. 

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George Kerevan Speaking to Edinburgh & Lothian P4Indy

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In 2016 First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announced a Growth Commission to look at the issues that face Scotland’s economy and the opportunities we can seize with independence. The Commission has now published its final report  – click on the image to go to the report website where you can download the report.

In November economist and former Edinburgh MP, George Kerevan spoke at a public meeting organised by the Edinburgh & Lothians Group of P4Indy who asked him to talk about  the Growth Commission Report. 

Keith McLeod, of the Edinburgh group, reports that there was an audience of around 35 folk to listen to the former MP and a lively Q&A session afterwards. His talk was recorded by Edinburgh RIC. Here it is… it’s easier to catch what he says if you use headphones!

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P4Indy Choir – Come and join us!

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Sleigh bells ring, are you listening
in the lane snow is glistening
A beautiful sight, we’re happy tonight
walking in a winter wonderland

Yesterday was the first meeting of the Greater Glasgow P4Indy Choir!

Alan Logue, convenor of the Greater Glasgow group, suggested at a recent meeting that if we had an entertainment group then we could offer to go to pensioners’ lunch clubs,  and day centres. Alan’s idea has been enthusiastically taken up by Mary McCabe, another Glasgow group member, who suggested that we could form a choir!

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