Glasgow Pensioners for Independence meet SNP MSP, Ivan McKee at the Bacchus Bar in Glasgow for a wide-ranging discussion on the future of Scottish independence.
The conversation covers many pressing political topics, but the key theme that kept resurfacing was the SNP’s upcoming 2025 party conference – specifically the debate on whether a majority victory at the next election should constitute a mandate to seek a second independence referendum, echoing the “precedent” set by Alex Salmond’s 2011 overall majority.

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Key topics:
- 01:41 Ivan McKee opening remarks
- 11:05 How can we get messages out with a hostile media
- 12:43 What happened to the rebuttal unit?
- 15:03 Won’t both votes SNP let unionist parties in?
- 16:14 Constituency seats vs list seats
- 18:53 What do we do if Westminster say no?
- 21:34 Why does SNP not support the ICCPR petition?
- 24:19 How safe is the Scottish NHS from Westminster privatisation?
- 26:18 Is US style fascism coming here?
- 29:25 Why is a majority of SNP+Greens not acceptable?
- 33:30 All indy parties should include independence in their manifesto
- 35:09 How will the situation in Northern Ireland affect independence?
- 36:10 What is the Plan B if Westminster refuse to negotiate?
- 39:27 Reflections after the event
- This is the fifth in the series of Bacchus Bar Conversations. You can watch all video version previous podcasts in the series here:
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